1 00:00:56,810 --> 00:00:54,830 hello everyone welcome to perversely 2 00:00:58,460 --> 00:00:56,820 universe on you section radio network 3 00:01:00,560 --> 00:00:58,470 brought to you by the northern Wisconsin 4 00:01:02,210 --> 00:01:00,570 Paranormal Society limited in the North 5 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:02,220 Woods paranormal Resource Center here in 6 00:01:06,770 --> 00:01:04,650 Rylander Wisconsin we're your hosts 7 00:01:09,110 --> 00:01:06,780 Kevin and Jennifer Miller hello everyone 8 00:01:10,730 --> 00:01:09,120 and hello to everybody in the higher and 9 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:10,740 chat room we look forward to your 10 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:14,490 questions in comments as always I orange 11 00:01:21,469 --> 00:01:17,280 calmness the link for the chatroom so 12 00:01:23,510 --> 00:01:21,479 come join us there and tonight before we 13 00:01:26,139 --> 00:01:23,520 bring our guests on like we do every 14 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:26,149 week we'd like to take a quick minute to 15 00:01:32,030 --> 00:01:28,770 do some shoutouts for those people who 16 00:01:34,580 --> 00:01:32,040 share our show banners it's because of 17 00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:34,590 you guys that help us spread the word 18 00:01:39,109 --> 00:01:37,380 about the show and we just appreciate it 19 00:01:42,590 --> 00:01:39,119 great so we'd like to take a minute and 20 00:01:46,219 --> 00:01:42,600 thank you who do we have this week all 21 00:01:48,590 --> 00:01:46,229 right so we have Deborah Sophie Jason 22 00:01:49,130 --> 00:01:48,600 bland and Jamie Danlos of paranormal 23 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:49,140 soup 24 00:01:59,109 --> 00:01:54,450 Chanin glisten Misha Misha France 25 00:02:02,690 --> 00:01:59,119 Howie Adele drift debbie grass vernal 26 00:02:07,850 --> 00:02:02,700 graves paranormal and Don and grunt 27 00:02:10,850 --> 00:02:07,860 Elmer so tonight we have one of our 28 00:02:15,410 --> 00:02:10,860 favorite guests from years past Iroquois 29 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:15,420 shaman and meta physician psychic 30 00:02:21,140 --> 00:02:19,650 journalist and author Walt Christos he's 31 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:21,150 been involved in the paranormal and 32 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:22,890 spirituality since his childhood 33 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:26,340 a veteran veteran parallel John we've 34 00:02:31,009 --> 00:02:28,950 been doing radio interviews just like 35 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:31,019 this since the early eighties we're 36 00:02:35,630 --> 00:02:32,489 certainly honored to have them back on 37 00:02:38,090 --> 00:02:35,640 to show it them we're gonna discuss his 38 00:02:42,530 --> 00:02:38,100 amazing books we have four of them here 39 00:02:44,979 --> 00:02:42,540 in the mwpsb Gert and in front of us now 40 00:02:49,390 --> 00:02:44,989 we're going to discuss of course 41 00:02:51,500 --> 00:02:49,400 spirituality metaphysics shamanism and 42 00:02:53,479 --> 00:02:51,510 anything that the chairman throws at us 43 00:02:55,660 --> 00:02:53,489 so you guys in the chat room if you have 44 00:03:00,640 --> 00:02:55,670 any questions on metaphysics or anything 45 00:03:02,890 --> 00:03:00,650 this is certainly the man to ask so 46 00:03:05,180 --> 00:03:02,900 without further ado 47 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:05,190 well why don't we just bring Walter 48 00:03:13,310 --> 00:03:08,970 Walter are you with us yes I am and good 49 00:03:18,110 --> 00:03:13,320 evening to both of you and the wild pair 50 00:03:21,140 --> 00:03:18,120 of our universe well we're very grateful 51 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:21,150 that your bra you said yes and that 52 00:03:26,509 --> 00:03:24,690 you'd come back on yeah well you're 53 00:03:29,330 --> 00:03:26,519 wonderful people and it's always a 54 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:29,340 pleasure to accept such a fine 55 00:03:41,810 --> 00:03:36,510 opportunity well thank you so why don't 56 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:41,820 we start by introducing you to all those 57 00:03:48,140 --> 00:03:44,100 in our audience who aren't familiar with 58 00:03:53,930 --> 00:03:48,150 you or your work but can you explain how 59 00:03:59,300 --> 00:03:53,940 you came to be a shaman it started as a 60 00:04:04,310 --> 00:03:59,310 youth and I might have been somewhere 61 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:04,320 between 8 and 10 years of age when I 62 00:04:13,310 --> 00:04:08,570 entered a contest that was being held by 63 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:13,320 the YMCA the Young Men's Christian 64 00:04:23,060 --> 00:04:17,630 Association with their Indian guides 65 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:23,070 program and the contest was or maybe 500 66 00:04:31,870 --> 00:04:27,570 kids when we were taken to a park in 67 00:04:35,689 --> 00:04:31,880 South Florida that was on the seashore 68 00:04:40,210 --> 00:04:35,699 and we were told to hide and the 69 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:40,220 counselors were hunters and every time a 70 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:44,970 child was found that child received a 71 00:04:56,290 --> 00:04:50,000 tag or a badge and became a hunter and 72 00:05:00,980 --> 00:04:56,300 the game was to be the last child hiding 73 00:05:04,250 --> 00:05:00,990 so that say at one point there were 500 74 00:05:09,379 --> 00:05:04,260 kids hiding and 12 counselors searching 75 00:05:13,159 --> 00:05:09,389 but by the end they're gonna be 498 76 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:13,169 kids hunting and 12 counselors hunting 77 00:05:19,159 --> 00:05:15,210 only two kids left and the one left 78 00:05:22,820 --> 00:05:19,169 standing would be the winner and I 79 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:22,830 crawled into a cactus grove and it was a 80 00:05:28,909 --> 00:05:26,610 big grove of cactus so I was able to get 81 00:05:33,739 --> 00:05:28,919 underneath them they were Spanish 82 00:05:37,269 --> 00:05:33,749 bayonets and I found almost a clearing 83 00:05:40,189 --> 00:05:37,279 in the inside of it and that was my spot 84 00:05:44,390 --> 00:05:40,199 and they couldn't find me and the hours 85 00:05:46,369 --> 00:05:44,400 went by and they started calling my name 86 00:05:48,589 --> 00:05:46,379 and I thought they just wanted to trick 87 00:05:53,029 --> 00:05:48,599 me and the police were called and the 88 00:05:56,420 --> 00:05:53,039 whole thing became really a bit of a 89 00:05:59,629 --> 00:05:56,430 mess and I came out like you know six 90 00:06:01,279 --> 00:05:59,639 seven hours later and saw one of my 91 00:06:03,559 --> 00:06:01,289 friends and he started running towards 92 00:06:07,999 --> 00:06:03,569 me and I started running away from he 93 00:06:14,209 --> 00:06:08,009 said no don't run you won you want and 94 00:06:18,309 --> 00:06:14,219 so the winner of the contest became an 95 00:06:24,369 --> 00:06:18,319 honorary member of the Iroquois 96 00:06:31,969 --> 00:06:24,379 Confederation which is a Native American 97 00:06:38,029 --> 00:06:31,979 nation that was made of seven tribes all 98 00:06:41,499 --> 00:06:38,039 right so that brought me into a program 99 00:06:48,709 --> 00:06:41,509 of being taught Native American ways and 100 00:06:53,570 --> 00:06:48,719 beliefs and that was the start and from 101 00:06:58,730 --> 00:06:53,580 there I got what is traditionally called 102 00:07:03,489 --> 00:06:58,740 drafted or chosen by other and I had 103 00:07:07,339 --> 00:07:03,499 interactions with other which would be 104 00:07:12,829 --> 00:07:07,349 non-physical human of this time period 105 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:12,839 of this linear time of this spot when 106 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:19,050 they encouraged me I guess you could say 107 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:21,919 to learn about metaphysics and 108 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:26,639 paranormal aspects and that is in 109 00:07:35,570 --> 00:07:32,610 art what started me as a shaman I mean 110 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:35,580 there are a lot of aspects to everyone's 111 00:07:44,890 --> 00:07:39,330 life and this is one aspect of my life 112 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:44,900 but that is the answer to your question 113 00:07:53,179 --> 00:07:47,370 so how did you family what did your 114 00:07:59,890 --> 00:07:53,189 family think about this my family was 115 00:08:05,360 --> 00:07:59,900 very eclectic to some degree 116 00:08:12,529 --> 00:08:05,370 non-spiritual non-religious very real 117 00:08:18,010 --> 00:08:12,539 world oriented and they the more 118 00:08:20,779 --> 00:08:18,020 seriously that I got involved the more 119 00:08:25,010 --> 00:08:20,789 adamant they were against me to some 120 00:08:30,079 --> 00:08:25,020 degree to where you know at one point in 121 00:08:35,209 --> 00:08:30,089 time my father wanted to have me 122 00:08:41,930 --> 00:08:35,219 lobotomized Wow 123 00:08:46,069 --> 00:08:41,940 yeah it wasn't a happy thing and you 124 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:46,079 know there were other aspects most I had 125 00:08:56,540 --> 00:08:50,310 visions that I that claim to have been 126 00:09:00,980 --> 00:08:56,550 sent by God and that in itself can cause 127 00:09:05,329 --> 00:09:00,990 some worry among some people it did with 128 00:09:09,290 --> 00:09:05,339 my family I decided I would accept a 129 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:09,300 path of public path as Crusoe's and 130 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:15,170 devote my life to it and I have but I 131 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:21,690 came from a very elite family and they 132 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:25,529 had a certain destiny but they wanted 133 00:09:33,650 --> 00:09:30,480 from me and I felt that God sort of had 134 00:09:38,750 --> 00:09:33,660 a certain destiny that God wanted from 135 00:09:39,940 --> 00:09:38,760 me and I wanted my own life and so I 136 00:09:45,639 --> 00:09:39,950 sort of walked 137 00:09:52,930 --> 00:09:49,900 it became a long learning experience and 138 00:09:58,060 --> 00:09:52,940 I'd like to think that I've remained a 139 00:10:00,850 --> 00:09:58,070 good person and that I have maintained 140 00:10:05,129 --> 00:10:00,860 my spiritual wellness while being 141 00:10:10,170 --> 00:10:05,139 competent in the real world and that I 142 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:10,180 might have had more challenges than many 143 00:10:18,810 --> 00:10:13,370 to do that to stay competent in the real 144 00:10:26,819 --> 00:10:18,820 world while handling so much that is not 145 00:10:35,079 --> 00:10:29,920 so the answer to your question was as my 146 00:10:38,590 --> 00:10:35,089 family really did not approve there was 147 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:38,600 one point in time when I put together a 148 00:10:44,139 --> 00:10:41,570 bunch of notes and then I sent it to 149 00:10:47,139 --> 00:10:44,149 them we weren't living at that point I 150 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:47,149 was living in the Florida Keys when they 151 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:52,250 were living in Palm Beach County and so 152 00:11:04,120 --> 00:10:57,920 they put together a book based on those 153 00:11:07,509 --> 00:11:04,130 rough notes to some degree it was to be 154 00:11:10,540 --> 00:11:07,519 used against me but it also was the 155 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:10,550 first thing that was ever written by 156 00:11:19,420 --> 00:11:16,970 Walt Christos and they called it the 157 00:11:20,439 --> 00:11:19,430 preliminary Dogma for the civil church 158 00:11:23,970 --> 00:11:20,449 of Christo's 159 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:23,980 and I really didn't want to start a 160 00:11:29,710 --> 00:11:27,500 church but I thought that something 161 00:11:34,030 --> 00:11:29,720 might grow from me 162 00:11:36,850 --> 00:11:34,040 and I wanted some rough guidelines you 163 00:11:40,870 --> 00:11:36,860 know to guide others who might do it 164 00:11:46,269 --> 00:11:40,880 and so that was you're younger this 165 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:46,279 likely young adult yeah I was probably 166 00:11:53,740 --> 00:11:52,490 26 or 28 at that time which to a 21 year 167 00:11:56,710 --> 00:11:53,750 old might seem all 168 00:11:59,140 --> 00:11:56,720 but to a 35 year old might still seem 169 00:12:01,750 --> 00:11:59,150 yatin right right 170 00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:01,760 well now now in over 60 so it was 171 00:12:10,660 --> 00:12:07,600 definitely some time ago one of your 172 00:12:15,130 --> 00:12:10,670 abilities has to do with weather can you 173 00:12:17,950 --> 00:12:15,140 talk about that a little bit by having 174 00:12:20,980 --> 00:12:17,960 ability which is somewhat Native 175 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:20,990 American but there are many other 176 00:12:31,260 --> 00:12:27,890 aspects of how I do what I do and I said 177 00:12:39,010 --> 00:12:31,270 and I still can I can influence weather 178 00:12:42,730 --> 00:12:39,020 and there is that which I can do as a 179 00:12:51,060 --> 00:12:42,740 human individual and then there is that 180 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:51,070 which my allies do including God and I 181 00:12:59,200 --> 00:12:54,890 thought that God was asking a lot of me 182 00:13:04,230 --> 00:12:59,210 and so I thought it might be fair if I 183 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:04,240 were to ask God to allow me to do this I 184 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:08,170 thought in times past 185 00:13:16,270 --> 00:13:12,170 God has manifest through prophets or 186 00:13:19,329 --> 00:13:16,280 through people and I thought that 187 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:19,339 anything that God has been able to do in 188 00:13:29,230 --> 00:13:21,650 the past that God could do in the 189 00:13:32,950 --> 00:13:29,240 present but at that time in the mid but 190 00:13:37,390 --> 00:13:32,960 say the late excuse me the late 191 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:37,400 seventies and early eighties anyone who 192 00:13:43,630 --> 00:13:40,130 displayed a paranormal or a psychic 193 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:43,640 ability was often labeled as being of 194 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:46,250 the devil and anything psychic was said 195 00:13:54,940 --> 00:13:50,690 to be of the devil and I disagreed with 196 00:13:57,970 --> 00:13:54,950 that and I thought that different things 197 00:14:03,240 --> 00:13:57,980 could be used for positive purposes and 198 00:14:09,340 --> 00:14:03,250 so I have always tried to use my ability 199 00:14:17,810 --> 00:14:13,010 essentially I defined a territory which 200 00:14:22,810 --> 00:14:17,820 I called Kokomo then it went from Key 201 00:14:27,310 --> 00:14:22,820 West up the east coast of Florida to 202 00:14:32,060 --> 00:14:27,320 Ormond Beach which is just above Daytona 203 00:14:36,700 --> 00:14:32,070 and then it took I four from Daytona 204 00:14:41,170 --> 00:14:36,710 through Orlando to Tampa and then down 205 00:14:47,090 --> 00:14:41,180 the west coast of Florida to Fort Miles 206 00:14:51,890 --> 00:14:47,100 Fort Myers and Naples and then back east 207 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:51,900 across Alligator Alley which when we go 208 00:14:57,890 --> 00:14:54,450 out to eat we never agree on where to go 209 00:14:59,600 --> 00:14:57,900 burgers tacos it is the one thing we do 210 00:15:01,970 --> 00:14:59,610 agree on is we all want unlimited 211 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:01,980 high-speed data that's why we switch to 212 00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:04,710 metro pcs stop by metro pcs with the 213 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:06,390 whole family and get four lines with 214 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:08,970 unlimited LTE data for just $100 period 215 00:15:12,770 --> 00:15:11,610 metro pcs Wireless figured out covers 216 00:15:14,030 --> 00:15:12,780 not available in some areas offers for 217 00:15:15,260 --> 00:15:14,040 our port number not currently active on 218 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:15,270 t-mobile network during congestion the 219 00:15:17,660 --> 00:15:16,290 fraction of customers used more than 220 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:17,670 three bucks per month may notice reduce 221 00:15:20,540 --> 00:15:19,290 beats video stream step 240p no 222 00:15:23,830 --> 00:15:20,550 tethering see store for details in terms 223 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:23,840 and conditions just now I certainly five 224 00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:27,570 to Fort Lauderdale and I said that I 225 00:15:35,510 --> 00:15:31,340 would protect that area from hurricanes 226 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:35,520 when I started issuing a pledge to media 227 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:41,250 to protect that area and I guess I 228 00:15:54,770 --> 00:15:50,690 my first pledge was in 1980 yeah and I 229 00:16:01,850 --> 00:15:54,780 maintained it and expanded it I've had 230 00:16:07,850 --> 00:16:01,860 my successful years I've had two years 231 00:16:13,250 --> 00:16:13,040 you know and that joy no I'm sorry go 232 00:16:15,980 --> 00:16:13,260 ahead 233 00:16:23,530 --> 00:16:15,990 the more you can interact in the talk 234 00:16:31,460 --> 00:16:26,150 that was basically it 235 00:16:37,940 --> 00:16:31,470 I you're gonna ask me about a test I 236 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:37,950 took with James Randi and they came to 237 00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:40,410 be two different tests which he might 238 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:44,160 view is one big test but essentially 239 00:16:53,660 --> 00:16:49,440 that they're in the life of Cristo 240 00:16:58,069 --> 00:16:53,670 series which is my journal and they are 241 00:17:03,730 --> 00:16:58,079 in books two and three they were when I 242 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:08,929 the test was set up in part by the Palm 243 00:17:18,980 --> 00:17:16,850 Beach round table and it was to be 244 00:17:25,309 --> 00:17:18,990 monitored by the Palm Beach Post 245 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:25,319 newspaper and I told James Randi that he 246 00:17:34,610 --> 00:17:30,240 could select before any weather in any 247 00:17:42,190 --> 00:17:34,620 place within my territory and he could 248 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:42,200 set the date and he agreed to a ratio of 249 00:17:50,810 --> 00:17:46,890 if I got three out of five requests he 250 00:17:55,060 --> 00:17:50,820 would agree that I could influence 251 00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:55,070 whether James Randi his background was a 252 00:18:05,090 --> 00:18:00,000 magician who said that there are no such 253 00:18:10,490 --> 00:18:05,100 things as psychic abilities and he 254 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:10,500 offered then $10,000 to anyone who could 255 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:14,809 display a psychic or paranormal ability 256 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:20,490 and so we agreed to use the weather 257 00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:21,250 report 258 00:18:29,940 --> 00:18:25,679 of the Miami Herald newspaper as 259 00:18:34,260 --> 00:18:29,950 verification for results we did not 260 00:18:37,020 --> 00:18:34,270 inform the Miami Herald newspaper so 261 00:18:40,730 --> 00:18:37,030 they were blind to this to try to make 262 00:18:47,870 --> 00:18:40,740 it objective was supposed to be a 263 00:18:52,740 --> 00:18:47,880 scientific test and the Palm Beach Post 264 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:52,750 agreed to cover it win lose or draw so I 265 00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:56,530 went into it knowing that if I failed 266 00:19:02,399 --> 00:18:58,960 there'd be a big article about me 267 00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:02,409 failing right and there are a lot of 268 00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:07,120 people that told me not to do it but the 269 00:19:13,140 --> 00:19:10,799 tests went on and essentially he 270 00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:13,150 requested were in within three day 271 00:19:20,909 --> 00:19:16,480 periods and then totally dry in three 272 00:19:24,090 --> 00:19:20,919 day periods so it was doing I believe it 273 00:19:28,289 --> 00:19:24,100 was during our wet season so it would be 274 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:28,299 sort of the probability was that 275 00:19:35,490 --> 00:19:32,590 naturally there would be rain on the 276 00:19:39,180 --> 00:19:35,500 days that he in the timeframe that he 277 00:19:41,399 --> 00:19:39,190 wanted it but it was also probable that 278 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:41,409 there would be rain in the days where he 279 00:19:46,250 --> 00:19:43,330 said there could be no rain at all 280 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:46,260 this is South Florida a subtropical 281 00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:50,850 Peninsula with daily thunderstorms okay 282 00:19:58,010 --> 00:19:53,679 does it he took Lake Okeechobee the 283 00:20:04,919 --> 00:19:58,020 moisture Rises the rain falls every day 284 00:20:11,060 --> 00:20:04,929 though we did the test and I thought I 285 00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:11,070 had passed within the parameters and I 286 00:20:19,169 --> 00:20:15,280 didn't hear back from him neither here 287 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:19,179 nor there and there came to be like a 288 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:21,610 little tug of war you can you read the 289 00:20:29,549 --> 00:20:24,130 book you can get all the details of what 290 00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:29,559 occurred and he did eventually get back 291 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:33,280 to me and he said that even though I had 292 00:20:39,970 --> 00:20:35,120 failed before 293 00:20:42,610 --> 00:20:39,980 test but he would give me another now I 294 00:20:45,820 --> 00:20:42,620 disagreed if I had failed before his 295 00:20:49,630 --> 00:20:45,830 test okay Thank You castle I think but 296 00:20:53,710 --> 00:20:49,640 yeah the first test was 22 requests 22 297 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:53,720 days of weather okay and that requires 298 00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:57,170 some focus and effort on my part it's 299 00:21:04,990 --> 00:20:58,730 not yeah 300 00:21:10,810 --> 00:21:05,000 just casual so I viewed that as 22 301 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:10,820 requests and with a 3 out of 5 ratio it 302 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:13,520 roughly meant that I had to get 12 or 13 303 00:21:22,330 --> 00:21:19,330 or save and 14 of them and I did and 304 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:22,340 there was no rain on any of the dry days 305 00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:25,490 and there was rain in his three-day 306 00:21:33,940 --> 00:21:29,120 periods each time right so I thought I 307 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:33,950 had passed the the results the weather 308 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:38,170 maps the data all of that is in book 2 309 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:41,510 for that test the next house I believe 310 00:21:48,580 --> 00:21:46,370 was in book 3 and I'm guessing at this 311 00:21:57,250 --> 00:21:48,590 point but I believe he gave me 11 more 312 00:22:01,200 --> 00:21:57,260 requests and I did not do well not as 313 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:01,210 well as I would have liked to write 314 00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:08,570 overall on the 33 days being for those 315 00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:13,280 who want to argue in my favor they can 316 00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:19,520 say I got 31 of the 33 requests for 317 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:23,510 those who want to argue against me I 318 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:28,910 think they can say I got 27 of the 33 319 00:22:40,180 --> 00:22:36,770 requests still amazing Frank what was 320 00:22:42,340 --> 00:22:40,190 really amazing was he went outside my 321 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:42,350 parameters for the second test where I 322 00:22:47,650 --> 00:22:45,110 had wanted three days because I have to 323 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:47,660 change an atmosphere okay 324 00:22:51,530 --> 00:22:48,480 or 325 00:22:55,310 --> 00:22:51,540 have to do things there are things I 326 00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:55,320 would prefer to do right and he 327 00:23:03,919 --> 00:22:58,559 essentially wanted wet dry wet dry wet 328 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:03,929 dry wet dry kind of a shift and what 329 00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:06,210 occurred and I don't think it is ever 330 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:11,190 occurred since is we got a weather front 331 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:17,280 that came south through us went further 332 00:23:23,180 --> 00:23:20,700 south than me right then turned around 333 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:23,190 came back north went further north 334 00:23:28,130 --> 00:23:25,530 beyond me turned around came back south 335 00:23:30,860 --> 00:23:28,140 went beyond me turned around came back 336 00:23:33,380 --> 00:23:30,870 north so we got a windshield wiper of 337 00:23:37,159 --> 00:23:33,390 this one weather front okay it's going 338 00:23:39,530 --> 00:23:37,169 back and forth with the idea is that 339 00:23:42,740 --> 00:23:39,540 when the actual front line comes through 340 00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:42,750 you get the rain when it was passed 341 00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:48,750 you'd get the dry okay so the weather 342 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:52,559 did a totally unnatural thing which 343 00:24:01,490 --> 00:23:56,370 sought to bring the result that Randy 344 00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,500 wanted but there were days where I got I 345 00:24:05,330 --> 00:24:03,360 think I got a rain on a day that was 346 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:05,340 supposed to be dry and I think I ended 347 00:24:13,030 --> 00:24:08,130 up with dry on a rain day and you know 348 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:13,040 it was it was not my best performance 349 00:24:18,130 --> 00:24:16,290 but it was still a good performance 350 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:18,140 [Music] 351 00:24:28,820 --> 00:24:26,130 no I gotta say for people that don't 352 00:24:32,659 --> 00:24:28,830 know if the general pop culture is that 353 00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:32,669 nobody ever passes to us for those you 354 00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:34,440 know paranormal history they're supposed 355 00:24:43,330 --> 00:24:37,590 to leave three people that and you're 356 00:24:46,010 --> 00:24:43,340 one I mean and I always felt that he 357 00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:46,020 just turned his back on me and walked 358 00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:50,910 away and in the late 90s I was doing a 359 00:24:57,980 --> 00:24:55,200 paranormal form online out of America 360 00:25:00,560 --> 00:24:57,990 online then it was called a forum with 361 00:25:02,150 --> 00:25:00,570 no name and at one point it had 6,000 362 00:25:06,370 --> 00:25:02,160 members right 363 00:25:10,670 --> 00:25:06,380 and I mentioned to this metaphysics form 364 00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:10,680 but I had passed Brandis test so they 365 00:25:18,590 --> 00:25:13,980 started getting in touch with him to 366 00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:18,600 either they wanted him to either do 367 00:25:24,110 --> 00:25:20,910 another test or to pay me what he 368 00:25:26,420 --> 00:25:24,120 allowed me right and I really wasn't 369 00:25:29,570 --> 00:25:26,430 doing it for the money I was doing it to 370 00:25:34,810 --> 00:25:29,580 get a credible witness right because I 371 00:25:38,210 --> 00:25:34,820 felt that if I'm I believe James Randi 372 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:38,220 wanted to find a real psychic and that 373 00:25:46,340 --> 00:25:42,930 he had not been able to okay so I 374 00:25:49,580 --> 00:25:46,350 thought I could see him going to the 375 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:49,590 public and saying I found one here he is 376 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:52,610 and him being all happy about this right 377 00:25:58,730 --> 00:25:56,850 okay so I'm a projector as far as the 378 00:26:04,910 --> 00:25:58,740 psychic goes oh not that much of a 379 00:26:07,460 --> 00:26:04,920 receiver I was apparently dead wrong 380 00:26:13,970 --> 00:26:07,470 about him actually wanting to find a 381 00:26:17,150 --> 00:26:13,980 real psychic you know but when the forum 382 00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:17,160 members got in touch with him he denied 383 00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:22,110 that this test had ever occurred all 384 00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:26,760 right and it was a couple of moves later 385 00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:28,860 where I moved from one place to another 386 00:26:37,540 --> 00:26:32,520 and I was going through papers and I 387 00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:37,550 came across his letters to me all right 388 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:40,320 detailing what we wanted for the test I 389 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:43,140 mean I have I had already had my stuff 390 00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:47,370 and I had logged his stuff into the life 391 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:50,220 of Christos series so that's all there 392 00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:53,610 in the book but I didn't have his actual 393 00:26:59,390 --> 00:26:56,130 sub I came across his envelopes his 394 00:27:01,850 --> 00:26:59,400 stationery stamped and dated everything 395 00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:01,860 all right so I began them in there 396 00:27:08,510 --> 00:27:05,580 they're in my they're on my facebook so 397 00:27:11,540 --> 00:27:08,520 he can't deny that this test occurred 398 00:27:15,210 --> 00:27:11,550 because I found the stuff to prove that 399 00:27:18,779 --> 00:27:15,220 it did but even after the first 400 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:18,789 the Palm Beach Post been declined to do 401 00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:23,890 an article when I passed right so I was 402 00:27:32,399 --> 00:27:28,830 left hanging by the media and by Randy 403 00:27:35,310 --> 00:27:32,409 and I had thought before I went into it 404 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:35,320 that if I had sailed they do like you 405 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:37,900 know big articles on this fake out there 406 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:41,440 and this Latin the other and here I pass 407 00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:44,770 the damn test and the newspaper turned 408 00:27:53,010 --> 00:27:48,580 its back on me and Randy turned his back 409 00:27:55,230 --> 00:27:53,020 on can I ask him it's ok it's ok it's 410 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:55,240 part of life and living and all that 411 00:28:02,580 --> 00:27:58,090 wonderful stuff I keep my side of the 412 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:02,590 board clean alright do you think in 413 00:28:06,899 --> 00:28:05,289 retrospect I know that all these years 414 00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:06,909 of past and what you know now how and 415 00:28:13,529 --> 00:28:10,630 everything that James Randi truly wanted 416 00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:13,539 to find a psychic because I kind of 417 00:28:19,289 --> 00:28:16,440 believe that anybody that dead its death 418 00:28:24,090 --> 00:28:19,299 well-known and back especially with the 419 00:28:28,350 --> 00:28:24,100 skeptical opinion on at hand I guess 420 00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:28,360 that you know there are other things too 421 00:28:36,930 --> 00:28:31,840 that me to believe that maybe I think 422 00:28:41,159 --> 00:28:36,940 maybe the answer is yes but not to help 423 00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:41,169 them but rather to obstruct them I think 424 00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:45,429 he serves an anti human agenda 425 00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:49,870 yeah and that he is I am a promoter and 426 00:28:57,270 --> 00:28:54,159 teacher of individual human empowerment 427 00:29:03,110 --> 00:28:57,280 of helping people to be all they can be 428 00:29:07,409 --> 00:29:03,120 as individuals I teach people how to 429 00:29:11,549 --> 00:29:07,419 make peace with themselves internally 430 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:11,559 and peace with the world and this helps 431 00:29:21,299 --> 00:29:17,370 people to have a good smooth energy flow 432 00:29:26,340 --> 00:29:21,309 consciously so it aids in their psychic 433 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:26,350 development and I think Brandi might 434 00:29:32,899 --> 00:29:29,080 either be located 435 00:29:37,169 --> 00:29:32,909 people with paranormal abilities metas 436 00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:37,179 for someone or some thing where he 437 00:29:44,879 --> 00:29:41,769 exists to obstruct them but the answer 438 00:29:47,850 --> 00:29:44,889 is I don't know I don't know why he does 439 00:29:51,149 --> 00:29:47,860 what he does you know I would say I 440 00:29:57,499 --> 00:29:51,159 don't either but I agree with you I 441 00:30:00,600 --> 00:29:57,509 think you know but okay with that 442 00:30:03,479 --> 00:30:00,610 commercial break we'll be right back for 443 00:30:08,669 --> 00:30:03,489 the state Russell universe the inception 444 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:08,679 radio network welcome back the third 445 00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:10,450 virtual universe on the inception radio 446 00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:11,080 network 447 00:30:14,639 --> 00:30:12,369 we're your host Kevin and Jennifer 448 00:30:18,479 --> 00:30:14,649 Malley and we're talking to Walt 449 00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:18,489 Christo's their request shaman but 450 00:30:22,169 --> 00:30:20,289 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sasquatch the shamans journey we also 479 00:31:27,330 --> 00:31:23,889 have three / virtual universe like pages 480 00:31:29,299 --> 00:31:27,340 check out and of course 481 00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:29,309 Jennifer Malik's like a demonologist 482 00:31:34,639 --> 00:31:32,710 like page and in the northern Wisconsin 483 00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:34,649 Paranormal Society limited like page 484 00:31:40,830 --> 00:31:38,169 also check out Lake monstrosity which is 485 00:31:42,690 --> 00:31:40,840 the largest group page on Facebook for 486 00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:42,700 aquatic mysteries and finally 487 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:44,350 the conspiracies which is pretty much 488 00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:46,690 self-explanatory if you have any 489 00:31:53,729 --> 00:31:49,720 questions for our guests go to iearn 490 00:31:55,859 --> 00:31:53,739 chat com2 go to our life iron chat room 491 00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:55,869 we can post questions and make comments 492 00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:00,960 and Jenny will pass those along yeah 493 00:32:05,639 --> 00:32:03,279 speaking of which that's how we're gonna 494 00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:05,649 start second half here because we have a 495 00:32:14,909 --> 00:32:08,980 whole bunch of questions for you well so 496 00:32:18,109 --> 00:32:14,919 alright okay so our first one is on the 497 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:18,119 quantum level knowing the cycle of rain 498 00:32:23,729 --> 00:32:20,950 pulling water back up from the earth and 499 00:32:24,629 --> 00:32:23,739 returning to the earth even if it is dry 500 00:32:27,419 --> 00:32:24,639 or wet 501 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:27,429 is there really any change in the water 502 00:32:35,849 --> 00:32:30,129 table and the physical amount of water 503 00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:35,859 and any given place news of fluctuation 504 00:32:41,879 --> 00:32:38,980 so yeah there's changes I mean look at 505 00:32:46,859 --> 00:32:41,889 the places that have prolonged droughts 506 00:32:54,139 --> 00:32:46,869 and others with floods what I'm looking 507 00:33:00,450 --> 00:32:54,149 at now is the increase in rainfall 508 00:33:06,899 --> 00:33:00,460 overall that will occur with melting of 509 00:33:11,849 --> 00:33:06,909 polar ice and this can result in more 510 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:11,859 snow and more rain and more cold water 511 00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:16,690 runoff into the ocean currents which can 512 00:33:22,970 --> 00:33:19,480 actually then cool the planet but an 513 00:33:27,629 --> 00:33:22,980 answer to your question yes there can be 514 00:33:30,570 --> 00:33:27,639 fluctuation if I have a outdoor pond 515 00:33:34,109 --> 00:33:30,580 where I live it's a of ground ponds in a 516 00:33:37,619 --> 00:33:34,119 big plastic thing and I can watch it to 517 00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:37,629 see what its water level does and more 518 00:33:43,889 --> 00:33:40,480 often than not it stays full any 519 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:43,899 question that I saw here when babies are 520 00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:46,450 aborted do you think they have souls 521 00:34:11,620 --> 00:34:04,800 I think they can yes I think hmm yeah I 522 00:34:17,169 --> 00:34:11,630 was born Bruce is there in Section when 523 00:34:21,370 --> 00:34:17,179 my mother was 22 weeks pregnant because 524 00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:21,380 she fell down a flight of stairs 525 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:26,000 I weighed a pound seven ounces 526 00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:35,090 I was hibernated and incubated but the 527 00:34:43,330 --> 00:34:39,230 bottom line is I could be legally 528 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:43,340 aborted today right because today I 529 00:34:48,250 --> 00:34:45,770 think you can get an abortion up to the 530 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:48,260 sixth month or something like that right 531 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:51,290 to the end of the second trimester but 532 00:34:59,740 --> 00:34:55,010 not in the third trimester I was born in 533 00:35:04,000 --> 00:34:59,750 the middle of the second trimester and I 534 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:04,010 would like to yeah I believe a fetus is 535 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:08,930 a living thing you know I just saw a 536 00:35:17,890 --> 00:35:13,990 really good picture well they had I 537 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:17,900 can't hurt inside of a woman and they 538 00:35:24,510 --> 00:35:20,810 added on the baby and inside the womb 539 00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:24,520 and it was the most defined 540 00:35:32,050 --> 00:35:28,400 clear picture of a fetus I've ever seen 541 00:35:35,530 --> 00:35:32,060 and there was so much detail to it I 542 00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:35,540 mean looking at that there wasn't there 543 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:39,110 was no doubt to me that that was human 544 00:35:44,140 --> 00:35:43,610 individuals you know that I was sure 545 00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:44,150 yeah 546 00:35:50,590 --> 00:35:46,990 that's I kind of believe the same thing 547 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:50,600 yeah yeah I think the question was at 548 00:35:56,830 --> 00:35:53,570 what if I wanted to turn it around a 549 00:35:59,830 --> 00:35:56,840 little bit it's a at what point does a 550 00:36:04,180 --> 00:35:59,840 fetus become a sentient being or have 551 00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:04,190 spirit and soul and I think maybe from 552 00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:06,400 start 553 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:09,470 yeah I'm conception you know yeah 554 00:36:17,020 --> 00:36:12,530 somewhere close to that for sure because 555 00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:17,030 it's a life form and it becomes a 556 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:20,480 question of the same thing you might ask 557 00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:23,090 of when you're treating animals right 558 00:36:28,930 --> 00:36:26,150 it's like well can we kill it because 559 00:36:32,350 --> 00:36:28,940 it's not human you know it doesn't 560 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:32,360 really think that much right and say I 561 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:34,730 cannot have this child 562 00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:45,190 until you get an abortion okay well if 563 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:49,040 it's a spirit that's immortal or at 564 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:52,850 least long livid it can enter the world 565 00:37:00,190 --> 00:36:57,200 at another time or opportunity good 566 00:37:05,530 --> 00:37:00,200 so you haven't killed the spirit even if 567 00:37:07,780 --> 00:37:05,540 you have killed its host but I think 568 00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:07,790 it's a serious thing to do and I 569 00:37:15,490 --> 00:37:11,390 understand that sometimes there are 570 00:37:20,380 --> 00:37:15,500 reasons why people might feel it for the 571 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:20,390 best but I would view it as a living 572 00:37:27,580 --> 00:37:24,410 thing okay 573 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:27,590 Wilson yeah very well said okay on to 574 00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:30,290 the next two questions we have here two 575 00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:33,440 human souls exist before earth it may 576 00:37:47,230 --> 00:37:38,030 come from someplace else it's a 577 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:47,240 possibility if the question is if the 578 00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:51,530 question is but is this my original 579 00:37:57,610 --> 00:37:54,560 answer to that was human souls are as 580 00:38:00,010 --> 00:37:57,620 old as humans right and that we can 581 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:00,020 evolve through other life ones if you 582 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:04,010 take a Buddhist do too you know we can 583 00:38:09,970 --> 00:38:06,890 also manifest perhaps in other types of 584 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:09,980 life forms that are non-human and 585 00:38:19,269 --> 00:38:17,450 sentient but a human soul cannot 586 00:38:24,179 --> 00:38:19,279 necessarily be older than 587 00:38:28,899 --> 00:38:24,189 humans so if it existed prior to 588 00:38:33,849 --> 00:38:28,909 existence as human then it was not a 589 00:38:37,859 --> 00:38:33,859 human soul when it did so you see so to 590 00:38:41,259 --> 00:38:37,869 ask if human souls are older than humans 591 00:38:43,959 --> 00:38:41,269 they really can't be logically if you 592 00:38:48,729 --> 00:38:43,969 wanted to rephrase it and say our souls 593 00:38:51,179 --> 00:38:48,739 that are in humans capable of being 594 00:38:55,409 --> 00:38:51,189 non-human the answer is yes its 595 00:38:59,199 --> 00:38:55,419 transmigration of spirit it is possible 596 00:39:02,679 --> 00:38:59,209 I'm going to remind people but I speak 597 00:39:07,529 --> 00:39:02,689 in terms of possibility and probability 598 00:39:11,979 --> 00:39:07,539 and not certainty because I do not have 599 00:39:14,829 --> 00:39:11,989 certainty and I think that people often 600 00:39:18,849 --> 00:39:14,839 speak with certainty when they do not 601 00:39:21,849 --> 00:39:18,859 have it and they assert strongly and to 602 00:39:28,149 --> 00:39:21,859 me that erodes their credibility but 603 00:39:30,339 --> 00:39:28,159 that's just me totally well you know I'm 604 00:39:33,279 --> 00:39:30,349 not ok so the last question that we have 605 00:39:36,579 --> 00:39:33,289 some chat is what do you think about 606 00:39:40,059 --> 00:39:36,589 UFOs and any relationship they might 607 00:39:42,249 --> 00:39:40,069 have to human spirituality which totally 608 00:39:44,169 --> 00:39:42,259 has to do with what right is talking is 609 00:39:47,709 --> 00:39:44,179 another really great question these are 610 00:39:50,829 --> 00:39:47,719 all yeah I'm one of those left field 611 00:39:55,899 --> 00:39:50,839 people that will tell you I have seen 612 00:40:00,609 --> 00:39:55,909 UFOs I have been on UFOs and I have met 613 00:40:03,390 --> 00:40:00,619 ETS and saying those things does not 614 00:40:07,089 --> 00:40:03,400 help my credibility at all with anything 615 00:40:09,969 --> 00:40:07,099 but it is an honest answer now you could 616 00:40:14,130 --> 00:40:09,979 say maybe my perception could be wrong 617 00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:14,140 maybe something else was going on so I 618 00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:21,049 believe that UFOs do exist as far as 619 00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:25,400 their relationship to human spirituality 620 00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:30,529 goes I'm going to say I don't have any 621 00:40:36,820 --> 00:40:33,440 certainty but 622 00:40:41,290 --> 00:40:36,830 some of them may be spiritually inclined 623 00:40:45,970 --> 00:40:41,300 and some of them might not be and that 624 00:40:51,130 --> 00:40:45,980 that was a difference between say gods 625 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:51,140 and angels and that some people will 626 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:53,690 tell you that the gods were from Orion 627 00:40:59,260 --> 00:40:56,210 and the angels were from the Pleiades I 628 00:41:03,120 --> 00:40:59,270 will tell you I do not know and I count 629 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:03,130 some of both of us as among my allies 630 00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:11,530 but the gods were known more or less 631 00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:14,030 wanting to be worshipped and they didn't 632 00:41:22,050 --> 00:41:16,910 care about human spirituality were the 633 00:41:29,980 --> 00:41:22,060 angels were said to try to administer 634 00:41:33,010 --> 00:41:29,990 nurture and raise humans spiritually so 635 00:41:37,090 --> 00:41:33,020 if you wanted to look at an ET that did 636 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:37,100 seem to be concerned with human 637 00:41:44,110 --> 00:41:40,610 spirituality you might look at the 638 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:44,120 angels in the Bible and lots of other 639 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:48,170 books of Scripture because I would align 640 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:54,410 with a lot of beliefs that say some 80s 641 00:42:03,190 --> 00:41:58,010 were very involved with trying to help 642 00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:03,200 to raise humanity you know yet they have 643 00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:05,030 this a lot of people have this view that 644 00:42:13,810 --> 00:42:10,030 like certain species are all good or all 645 00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:13,820 evil you know I'm like the reptilians 646 00:42:22,810 --> 00:42:16,430 are evil and the aliens are good do you 647 00:42:29,650 --> 00:42:22,820 believe that I believe the closest you 648 00:42:32,830 --> 00:42:29,660 can get to painting with a wide brush it 649 00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:32,840 might be aliens so that might be in 650 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:37,190 hives and have a hive mind or be more 651 00:42:46,810 --> 00:42:42,130 like social insects but I tell you 652 00:42:47,050 --> 00:42:46,820 people are people as individuals then 653 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:47,060 you 654 00:42:56,830 --> 00:42:51,170 should not paint with a wide brush which 655 00:43:01,330 --> 00:42:56,840 is to see all of a group as from or many 656 00:43:07,090 --> 00:43:01,340 might seem to be because you'll make 657 00:43:11,140 --> 00:43:07,100 errors and that from among a group you 658 00:43:16,270 --> 00:43:11,150 might view as adversarial are going to 659 00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:16,280 be some who will be on your side and if 660 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:22,190 you paint a whole group is evil then you 661 00:43:31,570 --> 00:43:27,290 are casting hate and that's inside of 662 00:43:35,170 --> 00:43:31,580 you and it's just it's it's disharmony 663 00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:35,180 Asit breeds conflict it is destructive 664 00:43:41,590 --> 00:43:39,110 it is a very bad thing to do and it's 665 00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:41,600 also give you errors in judgment in all 666 00:43:47,830 --> 00:43:44,840 kinds of ways I was thinking about that 667 00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:47,840 sort of the other day I was facing 668 00:43:55,570 --> 00:43:52,310 online some people that seem to be 669 00:43:58,090 --> 00:43:55,580 spilling for say venom and hatred even 670 00:44:00,610 --> 00:43:58,100 if it was self righteously and they're 671 00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:00,620 pointing fingers at others claiming that 672 00:44:05,620 --> 00:44:03,200 those others are able when it was they 673 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:05,630 who were being hateful by claiming this 674 00:44:12,070 --> 00:44:09,650 whole other group was hateful and I sat 675 00:44:14,590 --> 00:44:12,080 back and tried to stay out of it because 676 00:44:17,860 --> 00:44:14,600 I am older and gonna need that now and 677 00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:17,870 don't want it and I said to myself if 678 00:44:24,490 --> 00:44:21,110 someone's life experience with their 679 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:24,500 experience and learning has brought them 680 00:44:29,980 --> 00:44:27,290 to a point where they are now hateful 681 00:44:31,870 --> 00:44:29,990 and bitter and angry all the time 682 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:31,880 then I don't want to learn their ways 683 00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:35,690 they have not succeeded my own life 684 00:44:41,230 --> 00:44:37,910 experience has had its share of 685 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:41,240 challenges and adversities and my end 686 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:45,290 result is peaceful and harmonious I am 687 00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:49,970 able to enjoy life okay I haven't had 688 00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:52,700 anything any easier than them all right 689 00:44:57,310 --> 00:44:55,310 I've had all kinds of problems and 690 00:45:00,310 --> 00:44:57,320 terrible things that I've had to face in 691 00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:00,320 life now I am still a good 692 00:45:07,060 --> 00:45:03,110 and decent person and these people just 693 00:45:10,660 --> 00:45:07,070 go off it nothing they're angry in there 694 00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:10,670 loud it's like okay that's inside of 695 00:45:19,060 --> 00:45:15,680 them right and it's the same thing in 696 00:45:23,530 --> 00:45:19,070 its own little way when you try to paint 697 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:23,540 all of a perhaps et group as being 698 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:26,810 terrible right maybe it's their 699 00:45:33,130 --> 00:45:29,330 government you don't like all right 700 00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:33,140 maybe it's just that group I mean if one 701 00:45:38,890 --> 00:45:35,240 tall person kicks chair you're gonna 702 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:38,900 hate all tall people right I have a good 703 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:43,850 and dear woman friend in California who 704 00:45:53,140 --> 00:45:49,130 was raped by a white man 45 years ago 705 00:45:56,110 --> 00:45:53,150 and she still somewhat hates all white 706 00:45:58,450 --> 00:45:56,120 men and except for meaning a couple of 707 00:45:59,920 --> 00:45:58,460 others that she knows so we're okay but 708 00:46:01,990 --> 00:45:59,930 if she doesn't know you've been you're a 709 00:46:04,090 --> 00:46:02,000 white man boy you're terrible because he 710 00:46:07,950 --> 00:46:04,100 was raped by one and she knows how they 711 00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:07,960 all are right I'm going well you know 712 00:46:13,690 --> 00:46:10,670 it's a terrible thing to have to get 713 00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:13,700 beyond but you do and the wound is in 714 00:46:19,180 --> 00:46:16,310 you and you are in theory saying well 715 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:19,190 since I was hurt I'm going to go out and 716 00:46:22,540 --> 00:46:20,570 hurt other people because that's 717 00:46:26,410 --> 00:46:22,550 essentially what the words of eight are 718 00:46:28,930 --> 00:46:26,420 all about and it's just it's your own 719 00:46:30,820 --> 00:46:28,940 spirit that is suffering you're creating 720 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:30,830 negative karma for yourself you're 721 00:46:36,130 --> 00:46:33,490 ruining your Dharma you're creating an 722 00:46:40,290 --> 00:46:36,140 environment of conflict it's your 723 00:46:43,930 --> 00:46:40,300 quality of life and when you see people 724 00:46:46,690 --> 00:46:43,940 behaving that way it's the tip of the 725 00:46:49,630 --> 00:46:46,700 iceberg what you see on the outside it's 726 00:46:51,460 --> 00:46:49,640 just so small compared to everything 727 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:51,470 that's going on inside of them their 728 00:46:55,630 --> 00:46:53,570 internal dialogue how they talk to 729 00:46:57,540 --> 00:46:55,640 themselves all the time I mean they 730 00:47:00,100 --> 00:46:57,550 might say a cuss word once or twice 731 00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:00,110 verbally but inside it's going on all 732 00:47:07,390 --> 00:47:04,730 the time and so no those are wounded 733 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:07,400 people and they need healing all right 734 00:47:13,930 --> 00:47:09,890 and I know this but often they just get 735 00:47:16,809 --> 00:47:13,940 into more combat so this is a law 736 00:47:19,180 --> 00:47:16,819 sad digression you have my apologies but 737 00:47:23,410 --> 00:47:19,190 the answer to your question is no I 738 00:47:27,450 --> 00:47:23,420 don't its bigoted and hateful to say 739 00:47:32,740 --> 00:47:27,460 that all of a certain type or group are 740 00:47:35,740 --> 00:47:32,750 evil I mean to say that all okay 741 00:47:38,380 --> 00:47:35,750 ETS they obviously have the civilization 742 00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:38,390 to get technology to get here and they 743 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:40,609 are civilized enough that they haven't 744 00:47:45,579 --> 00:47:42,410 destroyed themselves with that 745 00:47:48,970 --> 00:47:45,589 technology and they haven't destroyed us 746 00:47:53,950 --> 00:47:48,980 either okay so that's two points in 747 00:48:12,550 --> 00:47:53,960 their favor right there yeah let me be 748 00:48:15,010 --> 00:48:12,560 quiet but uh I do want to I do want to 749 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:15,020 mention the books before we go out there 750 00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:20,050 yeah not sure can you um zero water or 751 00:48:28,569 --> 00:48:24,640 no well it's total chaos 752 00:48:33,250 --> 00:48:28,579 okay I like my recommendation to people 753 00:48:37,450 --> 00:48:33,260 is the thought of Christmas you can find 754 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:37,460 it on Amazon or Walmart calm online or 755 00:48:45,210 --> 00:48:40,130 just do a search for it then it's 756 00:48:50,170 --> 00:48:45,220 singular the thought of Christos and I 757 00:48:53,370 --> 00:48:50,180 like to think it is a tool box that will 758 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:53,380 help people to learn how to cope with 759 00:49:00,400 --> 00:48:56,770 internal and external negativity in 760 00:49:03,370 --> 00:49:00,410 positive ways and helps people to learn 761 00:49:07,059 --> 00:49:03,380 how to develop their own psychic 762 00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:07,069 potential if they have any that kind of 763 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:10,310 thing but that it is useful to people in 764 00:49:17,950 --> 00:49:13,970 coping with life and it is guidance and 765 00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:17,960 suggestions I like to think it is a very 766 00:49:27,730 --> 00:49:22,960 very valuable book and it is my legacy I 767 00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:27,740 have a book called our so it's a capital 768 00:49:35,350 --> 00:49:31,270 our with a little s rambling through 769 00:49:40,450 --> 00:49:35,360 spiritual history and I took all the 770 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:40,460 world's religious and myths and tried to 771 00:49:47,470 --> 00:49:43,850 put them together in sequential order 772 00:49:49,660 --> 00:49:47,480 and got a different story than I 773 00:49:52,750 --> 00:49:49,670 expected but it's also what I call the 774 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:52,760 lives of Christos and then there's the 775 00:50:00,340 --> 00:49:57,650 life of crystals which is my journal and 776 00:50:05,620 --> 00:50:00,350 there's I'm working on a twelfth book 777 00:50:08,830 --> 00:50:05,630 now in that series yeah I really had so 778 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:11,650 I've been professionally writing since 779 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:16,970 the 1970s oh I have I have I have more 780 00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:18,890 written material than most people could 781 00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:21,110 possibly read but I'm just hoping that 782 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:24,430 at least one of these books will be 783 00:50:29,650 --> 00:50:27,650 entertaining or useful and then later on 784 00:50:31,180 --> 00:50:29,660 people might live for hundreds of years 785 00:50:34,180 --> 00:50:31,190 so then they'll have the time to read 786 00:50:37,390 --> 00:50:34,190 with me well thank you never tell like 787 00:50:38,620 --> 00:50:37,400 who down the wait well you know with one 788 00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:38,630 of your books and it will change your 789 00:50:47,710 --> 00:50:38,960 life 790 00:50:49,690 --> 00:50:47,720 better dinner just finish the thought of 791 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:49,700 crystals I just started reading the 792 00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:53,810 writing on the wall that's my that's my 793 00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:00,800 short autobiography sir we got one 794 00:51:03,730 --> 00:51:01,310 minute left 795 00:51:06,130 --> 00:51:03,740 is there a where can people find you any 796 00:51:10,030 --> 00:51:06,140 links or what would you have them go to 797 00:51:13,570 --> 00:51:10,040 find your work just look if they want to 798 00:51:20,590 --> 00:51:13,580 find stuff related to me do a search for 799 00:51:21,609 --> 00:51:20,600 Walt that's J you a L T it's like one 800 00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:21,619 but Walt 801 00:51:30,310 --> 00:51:26,960 J you a now see and that to give them a 802 00:51:32,980 --> 00:51:30,320 whole bunch of results and my books are 803 00:51:35,710 --> 00:51:32,990 on Amazon with Walmart Barnes and Nobles 804 00:51:41,350 --> 00:51:35,720 so you can find it and some of them are 805 00:51:44,650 --> 00:51:41,360 actually cheap cheap cheap paper 806 00:51:52,490 --> 00:51:44,660 expensive brave reading big print small 807 00:51:55,140 --> 00:51:52,500 words easy easy 808 00:51:57,850 --> 00:51:55,150 [Laughter] 809 00:52:01,390 --> 00:51:57,860 well I want to take a moment and thank 810 00:52:04,930 --> 00:52:01,400 you both for having me with you it is 811 00:52:07,180 --> 00:52:04,940 always a joy for me that's always a joy 812 00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:07,190 anyways yes and thank you so much for 813 00:52:11,620 --> 00:52:09,200 for for coming on and sharing with 814 00:52:14,260 --> 00:52:11,630 everybody all the information that you 815 00:52:16,210 --> 00:52:14,270 have and on that note to the believer 816 00:52:18,610 --> 00:52:16,220 evidence still for a while into the 817 00:52:21,130 --> 00:52:18,620 skeptic there will never be enough when 818 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:21,140 we go out to eat we never agree on where 819 00:52:24,250 --> 00:52:21,650 to go 820 00:52:26,110 --> 00:52:24,260 what burgers heats up tacos it is the 821 00:52:28,270 --> 00:52:26,120 one thing we do agree on is we all want 822 00:52:31,330 --> 00:52:28,280 unlimited high-speed data that's why we 823 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:31,340 switch to metro pcs stop by metro pcs 824 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:33,050 with the whole family and get four lines 825 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:35,930 with unlimited LTE data for just $100 . 826 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:38,570 metro pcs wireless figured out covers 827 00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:39,770 not available in some areas offered by 828 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:40,790 reportin um we're not currently active 829 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:42,170 on t-mobile network during congestion 830 00:52:44,380 --> 00:52:43,130 the fraction of customers using more 831 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:44,390 than 35 gigs per month may notice 832 00:52:47,470 --> 00:52:46,250 reduced beats video streams dep 240p no